by JENNY CLOVER
The usual protocol for interviewing
someone involves
meeting that person and asking
them a series of questions. With
Guardian columnist Julie Burchill,
protocol is suspended. A request for
an interview is met with the uncharacteristically
sheepish, "could we do
by email?" Without meeting her,
it’s hard to decide what Burchill is
really like.
What we do know about Julie is
that she started out as a journalist for
the NME in 1976 at the tender age of
17, during the height of the Punk
wave, where she met, married and
now famously loathes Daily Mirror
hack Tony Parsons; she was dubbed
"the world’s worst mother" by the
Daily Mail; she lives in Brighton; she
has never left the country except for
one holiday to New York; she has
never been to university - something
of a sore subject; she has written a
book about the Beckhams; and she
has had her fair share of cocaine, lesbian
affairs and high-profile bust-ups.
Yes, Julie Burchill is what we know as a
controversial’ journalist. She is now
most famous for writing a vicious and
much loved and hated weekly column
for the Guardian, although many see
her role at the paper as inciting the liberal
and docile Guardian readers into
writing angry letters for the following
weeks’ entertainment. She is also
painfully shy when it comes to meeting
people. Julie Burchill is a well-rounded
lady with a high squeaky voice and
despite her vociferous writings on all
sorts of subjects, rarely makes television
or radio appearances, and is much
softer and more pleasant in her correspondence
than in her column.
Having not met the Queen of the
Groucho Club, I am in no better position
than you to talk about what Julie
Burchill is really like. So perhaps we
should let her do the talking.
How are you?
I’m very smooth and very happy, thank
you.
What made you get into music
journalism in the first place?
I would have had to have gone into
factory otherwise, which I didn’t much
fancy, as I was a jumped-up little
madam from the age of twelve.
Who was the first band you saw
that inspired you to write about
music?
I was inspired by the music I grew up
listening to - black dancing music, but
never by any of the bands I saw during
punk. I just pretended, as I wanted the
job.
Do you still have an interest in
music?
I’m 43, for goodness sake! It’s a bit sad
to be into music at 30, let alone 43.
left the NME when I was 19 because of
this - I didn’t want to be some wanker
still thinking pop music was important
when I hit the menopause. Tragic!
What was the last band you saw
live?
Brian Wilson at the Brighton Centre.
was like seeing Isambard Kingdom
Brunel working on the Suspension
Bridge or something - magic, history,
everything. Much more than music.
Gosh that sounds pretentious!
Do you still read NME?
My 16 year old does, he says it’s crap
written by a bunch of old men. Things
appear to have gone back to the way
they were before Tony and I arrived.
What books are you reading?
Patrick Hamilton, Graham Greene,
David Sedaris.
Do you resent the pressure to be
opinionated at all times?
No, I like it.
Do you always believe in the opinions
you advocate, or do you
appreciate the need to be controversial?
Life’s too short to wind people up for
the sake of it. You get enough rubbish
over stuff you believe in.
Which are your newspapers of
choice?
Guardian, News of the World.
Are there any articles or columns
that in retrospect you wish you
hadn’t written?
No.
Does regret have any place in journalism?
Not in mine.
How do you feel about an imminent
war with Iraq?
It wouldn’t have happened if we’d
killed the sucker in the first place.
Do you think if Britain did go to
war, that the population as
whole would be fairly represented?
Only if the view of the population as
whole can be represented in other
issues, such as whether we have capital
punishment or not.
What are your feelings towards
George Bush at the moment?
Not a mad fan, but he’s O.K. He’s obviously
not the baby-eating monster certain
hysterics make out. He’d be funny
if you could get him drunk. He obviously
doesn’t use gassing or rape as
weapon of terror against his own people,
so if it’s him and Saddam, it’s obviously
better the devil you know.
Condoleeza Rice seems very cool.
How far do you think student
unions are able to put pressure on
the government about a possible
war?
Not at all. What are they going to
threaten to withdraw? Their labour?
Not watching Countdown?
Do you think students are doing
enough to oppose war?
I think they are doing all within their
power.
Some Sussex students have been
applauded for visiting the occupied
territories. How do you feel about
Israel?
I am pro-Israel. But I’d never be conceited
enough to think I could make
difference. I think western people can
get very up themselves when it comes
to the Middle East situation. It doesn’t
really matter what we think. When and
if the people involved are ready, they’ll
sort it out between themselves.
You’ve lived in Brighton for years.
What is it about Brighton that
appeals to you so much?
It’s not London!
How has Brighton changed in the
time you’ve known it?
The council seem to know the price of
everything and the value of nothing.
Who on earth would sell our library to
be made into a bar while bidding for
the City of Culture!
What are your favourite Brighton
haunts?
Hotel du Vin, English’s, the bar at the
end of the Pier.
What does the future hold for you?
Will you be at the Guardian for
long?
Hopefully.
What advice could you offer budding
journalists?
Don’t write about what you know.
Don’t be yourself. All that will come
later.
How did you find New York?
Pleasant and relaxing. It’s for people
who can’t handle London.
Have you ever met the Beckhams?
Where would I meet them? By the
Sunny Delight fridge at the 7-11?
I stopped going to those parties when
was 19.
How you did and Alan Rusbridger
sort out your differences?
(Julie wrote a review of current
Guardian editor, Alan Rusbridger’s
guide to sex manuals some years ago,
completely tearing it apart in the most
vicious terms)
He’s too big a man to care about rubbish
like that. And so am I.
So there we have it. Julie Burchill in her
own words, and bizarrely she thinks
Condoleeza Rice is cool. The contrast
between the style of her correspondence
and her answers is marked. By
not meeting potential interviewers,
gives her the ability to remain
detached, and allows her to be as
spiky, honest and controversial as she
likes, without opening herself up to
comments about her physical appearance.
I don’t feel I know the real Julie
Burchill any better from this interview,
but then maybe that’s the way she
wants it.
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